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	<description>Commentary by Vic Sprouse</description>
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		<title>By: Charles Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 04:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The legislature will never give up its acess to all that cash. Thats how they rent/lease all their financial backers buildings. However; lets say this would fly.  Why do the teachers get their "FUND" enhanced and none other? Are we all step-children to the mighty Teachers union?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The legislature will never give up its acess to all that cash. Thats how they rent/lease all their financial backers buildings. However; lets say this would fly.  Why do the teachers get their &#8220;FUND&#8221; enhanced and none other? Are we all step-children to the mighty Teachers union?</p>
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		<title>By: Senator Vic Sprouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Senator Vic Sprouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 15:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from an emailer...

I kind of like the idea.  But, it would have to be enough money.  What about the organized crime influx into the State, a la Las Vegas and Atlantic City as a result?

I could see also putting casinos, if you are going to have them, at the Snowshoe and Canaan Valley Resorts areas.  This would give them additional summer business and generally keep them away from the populated areas of the State where they would be tempting to poor people.

I don't like the gambling business really at all.  It looks like we are grasping at anything to get jobs.  Look at the poverty surrounding the Atlantic City Area.  Has gambling brought that much prosperity to Mississippi and other areas besides Vegas?

It always amuses me when I go to self-service gasoline stations in lower economic areas and have to wait behind people who are buying lottery tickets, beer, and cigarettes.  And, these people can't afford it.

I doubt the constitutionality of table games.

If they vote on table games, I say have a State-wide constitutional vote, followed by county referendum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from an emailer&#8230;</p>
<p>I kind of like the idea.  But, it would have to be enough money.  What about the organized crime influx into the State, a la Las Vegas and Atlantic City as a result?</p>
<p>I could see also putting casinos, if you are going to have them, at the Snowshoe and Canaan Valley Resorts areas.  This would give them additional summer business and generally keep them away from the populated areas of the State where they would be tempting to poor people.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like the gambling business really at all.  It looks like we are grasping at anything to get jobs.  Look at the poverty surrounding the Atlantic City Area.  Has gambling brought that much prosperity to Mississippi and other areas besides Vegas?</p>
<p>It always amuses me when I go to self-service gasoline stations in lower economic areas and have to wait behind people who are buying lottery tickets, beer, and cigarettes.  And, these people can&#8217;t afford it.</p>
<p>I doubt the constitutionality of table games.</p>
<p>If they vote on table games, I say have a State-wide constitutional vote, followed by county referendum.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Butts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Butts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 03:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug Butts   Reply number two hit the nail on the head. Children of problem gamblers are caught in a web just like a spider traps its prey. Children cannot food and clothe themselves and are dependent on adults to provide for them. If that adult gets hooked on gambling the child's quality of life is greatly reduced and that chil's chances of a college education greatly reduce. Is this reduction in quality of life and the reduced possibilty of higher education for this child more important than the gambling money taken from this childs parent? It should be. This reduction of education for this child will affect it the rest of its life.....that's just not fair. Childrens quality of life should be alot more important to our lawmakers than gambling money......but I think alot of them don't care. Most Dem.s in our state legislature want more gambling,and most Rep.'s don't. Election day helps to remind lawmakers where the priorities of voters are. Dem.s will have a day of reckoning. Dem.s are voting for gambling this session thinking that voters will forget what they have done by election day 2008. I won't forget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug Butts   Reply number two hit the nail on the head. Children of problem gamblers are caught in a web just like a spider traps its prey. Children cannot food and clothe themselves and are dependent on adults to provide for them. If that adult gets hooked on gambling the child&#8217;s quality of life is greatly reduced and that chil&#8217;s chances of a college education greatly reduce. Is this reduction in quality of life and the reduced possibilty of higher education for this child more important than the gambling money taken from this childs parent? It should be. This reduction of education for this child will affect it the rest of its life&#8230;..that&#8217;s just not fair. Childrens quality of life should be alot more important to our lawmakers than gambling money&#8230;&#8230;but I think alot of them don&#8217;t care. Most Dem.s in our state legislature want more gambling,and most Rep.&#8217;s don&#8217;t. Election day helps to remind lawmakers where the priorities of voters are. Dem.s will have a day of reckoning. Dem.s are voting for gambling this session thinking that voters will forget what they have done by election day 2008. I won&#8217;t forget.</p>
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		<title>By: Stacey</title>
		<link>http://www.changewv.com/2007/sell-the-casinos-to-the-casino-owners/comment-page-1#comment-1266</link>
		<dc:creator>Stacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gambling is bad no matter how you look at it.  I definitely agree the state should get out of the business.  Of course, I don't think we should have it to begin with.  All it does is ruin families.  Of course, making it illegal will not stop it.  So, while I don't like gambling, and I know it ruins families, simply banning it will not solve it, so I think your plan sounds reasonable to me.  You can't legislate morality, and trying to do so usually causes more harm than good.  So for those who want to rid us of gambling, and I am for doing that, we have to work on changing the hearts of people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gambling is bad no matter how you look at it.  I definitely agree the state should get out of the business.  Of course, I don&#8217;t think we should have it to begin with.  All it does is ruin families.  Of course, making it illegal will not stop it.  So, while I don&#8217;t like gambling, and I know it ruins families, simply banning it will not solve it, so I think your plan sounds reasonable to me.  You can&#8217;t legislate morality, and trying to do so usually causes more harm than good.  So for those who want to rid us of gambling, and I am for doing that, we have to work on changing the hearts of people.</p>
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		<title>By: Senator Vic Sprouse</title>
		<link>http://www.changewv.com/2007/sell-the-casinos-to-the-casino-owners/comment-page-1#comment-1264</link>
		<dc:creator>Senator Vic Sprouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senator Sprouse, I work assisting social service agencies and recently I have been working with my assistant pastor setting up fund guidelines why because in Monongalia Co. there was over $257,000,000 played at video poker machines. Mortgage foreclosures are up, rent and utility assistance request have increased, and we are just beginning to see the negative impacts of gambling. No one is looking at the hidden cost in spousal and child abuse, divorce and family issues. In the long term, gambling will cost the state and communities more than we will gain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senator Sprouse, I work assisting social service agencies and recently I have been working with my assistant pastor setting up fund guidelines why because in Monongalia Co. there was over $257,000,000 played at video poker machines. Mortgage foreclosures are up, rent and utility assistance request have increased, and we are just beginning to see the negative impacts of gambling. No one is looking at the hidden cost in spousal and child abuse, divorce and family issues. In the long term, gambling will cost the state and communities more than we will gain.</p>
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		<title>By: Senator Vic Sprouse</title>
		<link>http://www.changewv.com/2007/sell-the-casinos-to-the-casino-owners/comment-page-1#comment-1263</link>
		<dc:creator>Senator Vic Sprouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from an emailer...

I really like the way this sounds, although I would like to only give 
them a limited time without additional competition.  I can see the 
Eastern Panhandle eclipsing Atlantic City for people in the southern 
Megaopolis.  This should allow the casino's to grow increasing the state 
cash flow from the corporate income tax.  Sounds like a real good plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from an emailer&#8230;</p>
<p>I really like the way this sounds, although I would like to only give<br />
them a limited time without additional competition.  I can see the<br />
Eastern Panhandle eclipsing Atlantic City for people in the southern<br />
Megaopolis.  This should allow the casino&#8217;s to grow increasing the state<br />
cash flow from the corporate income tax.  Sounds like a real good plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Senator Vic Sprouse</title>
		<link>http://www.changewv.com/2007/sell-the-casinos-to-the-casino-owners/comment-page-1#comment-1262</link>
		<dc:creator>Senator Vic Sprouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from an emailer...

Dear MR Sprouse,i think the great welfare state of wv,should be the sole owner of these gaming places,and then we could take the people on welfare and give them jobs,that way we could get them off the backs of people that has worked all there life and are trying to make it on what little money we had to retire on,that way we could money have enough to pay for our medicine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from an emailer&#8230;</p>
<p>Dear MR Sprouse,i think the great welfare state of wv,should be the sole owner of these gaming places,and then we could take the people on welfare and give them jobs,that way we could get them off the backs of people that has worked all there life and are trying to make it on what little money we had to retire on,that way we could money have enough to pay for our medicine</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.changewv.com/2007/sell-the-casinos-to-the-casino-owners/comment-page-1#comment-1260</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are gambling the future of West Virginia on gambling revenues...Where will it end?  I loved ghow the gambling lobby is offering the State 24% of the take...what is their percentage?  The Lottery Commission already handcuffs the good work of the West Virginia Problem Gamblers Network in their efforts to deal with the thousands who are addicted to gaming and gambling in the State - they tell them what they can say and what they can't - won't allow them to lobby gainst gambling and/or gaming - and print, "Please Play Responsibly" in a 2.5 font while posting jackpot amounts in a 356 font...  If we allow table games, then Pennsylvania and/or Virginia will follow suit, so what will we do to lure business?...legalize prostitution?...Does anyone consider that states that have legalized table games - even on riverboats (Nevada, New Jersey, Mississippi, Indiana, Illinois, etc.) have had to form Organized Crime Commissions and complex oversight commissions and Boards to manage gambling.  Who will pay for the expense of these oversight boards?  Short sightedness - looking only at the "instant cash bonanza" will be our demise...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are gambling the future of West Virginia on gambling revenues&#8230;Where will it end?  I loved ghow the gambling lobby is offering the State 24% of the take&#8230;what is their percentage?  The Lottery Commission already handcuffs the good work of the West Virginia Problem Gamblers Network in their efforts to deal with the thousands who are addicted to gaming and gambling in the State - they tell them what they can say and what they can&#8217;t - won&#8217;t allow them to lobby gainst gambling and/or gaming - and print, &#8220;Please Play Responsibly&#8221; in a 2.5 font while posting jackpot amounts in a 356 font&#8230;  If we allow table games, then Pennsylvania and/or Virginia will follow suit, so what will we do to lure business?&#8230;legalize prostitution?&#8230;Does anyone consider that states that have legalized table games - even on riverboats (Nevada, New Jersey, Mississippi, Indiana, Illinois, etc.) have had to form Organized Crime Commissions and complex oversight commissions and Boards to manage gambling.  Who will pay for the expense of these oversight boards?  Short sightedness - looking only at the &#8220;instant cash bonanza&#8221; will be our demise&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mikey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is lost in this is the 5 year old girl who depends on her parents for food and clothing and a secure,warm place to live.

She is deprived of even basic necessities because one or both of her parents have a gambling addiction and blow what small income they have.

This gambling addiciton is sanctioned by the State of WV in ever increasing increments because of the need for State MONEY.  MONEY for pensions, budget digest projects, "economic development", more State regulations, agencies, employees, etc.

So.. come on Legislators, lets open up gambling full tilt..  let's roll in the dough while that small child suffers.

Hopefully there is a GOD and the folks that vote for gambling will answer for the crime to a higher power.

Just my opinion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is lost in this is the 5 year old girl who depends on her parents for food and clothing and a secure,warm place to live.</p>
<p>She is deprived of even basic necessities because one or both of her parents have a gambling addiction and blow what small income they have.</p>
<p>This gambling addiciton is sanctioned by the State of WV in ever increasing increments because of the need for State MONEY.  MONEY for pensions, budget digest projects, &#8220;economic development&#8221;, more State regulations, agencies, employees, etc.</p>
<p>So.. come on Legislators, lets open up gambling full tilt..  let&#8217;s roll in the dough while that small child suffers.</p>
<p>Hopefully there is a GOD and the folks that vote for gambling will answer for the crime to a higher power.</p>
<p>Just my opinion</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 03:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they would take your idea, and implement it as you have proposed it, I would be 1000% behind it.

If they took your idea, and used the money for more government, I would be 1000% against it.

We know the only two reasons this is going through...

1)Campaign cash

2)Money to hand out to government employees to secure their vote.

Retired and soon to be retired Teachers may take an active interest in the pension fund debt, but the WVEA doesn't. They would take a 10% raise over a solvent pension plan 100 percent of the time, because they think if the retirement checks bounce the government should raise taxes yet again. 

You remember how mad they got when Joe put last year's surplus in the retirement system to make it disappear so that Joe did not have to have a food tax reduction versus teacher pay raise fight on his hand.

To summarize, your proposal does nothing for Joe Manchin and the Democrats. They don't want a strong vibrant economy here, they want power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they would take your idea, and implement it as you have proposed it, I would be 1000% behind it.</p>
<p>If they took your idea, and used the money for more government, I would be 1000% against it.</p>
<p>We know the only two reasons this is going through&#8230;</p>
<p>1)Campaign cash</p>
<p>2)Money to hand out to government employees to secure their vote.</p>
<p>Retired and soon to be retired Teachers may take an active interest in the pension fund debt, but the WVEA doesn&#8217;t. They would take a 10% raise over a solvent pension plan 100 percent of the time, because they think if the retirement checks bounce the government should raise taxes yet again. </p>
<p>You remember how mad they got when Joe put last year&#8217;s surplus in the retirement system to make it disappear so that Joe did not have to have a food tax reduction versus teacher pay raise fight on his hand.</p>
<p>To summarize, your proposal does nothing for Joe Manchin and the Democrats. They don&#8217;t want a strong vibrant economy here, they want power.</p>
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