Comments on: The dumbest idea of the year; a RichRod buyout clause for each Promise Scholar http://www.changewv.com/2008/the-dumbest-idea-of-the-year-a-richrod-buyout-clause-for-each-promise-scholar Commentary by Vic Sprouse Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:19:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Sandy http://www.changewv.com/2008/the-dumbest-idea-of-the-year-a-richrod-buyout-clause-for-each-promise-scholar/comment-page-1#comment-16210 Sandy Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:19:26 +0000 http://www.changewv.com/2008/the-dumbest-idea-of-the-year-a-richrod-buyout-clause-for-each-promise-scholar#comment-16210 DUH!!!!! I'm confused.....Back in my day a scholarship meant something paid with no debt incurred.......An educational LOAN was to be paid back with some interest. Was I sleeping when they changed the meaning of these words???? DUH!!!!! I’m confused…..Back in my day a scholarship meant something paid with no debt incurred…….An educational LOAN was to be paid back with some interest. Was I sleeping when they changed the meaning of these words????

]]> By: Timothy Word http://www.changewv.com/2008/the-dumbest-idea-of-the-year-a-richrod-buyout-clause-for-each-promise-scholar/comment-page-1#comment-16178 Timothy Word Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:55:57 +0000 http://www.changewv.com/2008/the-dumbest-idea-of-the-year-a-richrod-buyout-clause-for-each-promise-scholar#comment-16178 What's really sad is this party and its inability to get its act together to seriously challenge him. Rasmussen Reports a couple of months ago or maybe longer, had poll showing his approval rating at 83%- do you know who gave him the highest approval rating? REPUBLICANS, by several points above the Democrats- thats insane. What’s really sad is this party and its inability to get its act together to seriously challenge him. Rasmussen Reports a couple of months ago or maybe longer, had poll showing his approval rating at 83%- do you know who gave him the highest approval rating? REPUBLICANS, by several points above the Democrats- thats insane.

]]> By: Frank http://www.changewv.com/2008/the-dumbest-idea-of-the-year-a-richrod-buyout-clause-for-each-promise-scholar/comment-page-1#comment-16177 Frank Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:50:00 +0000 http://www.changewv.com/2008/the-dumbest-idea-of-the-year-a-richrod-buyout-clause-for-each-promise-scholar#comment-16177 One more remark. Where are the few Republican legislators we have? Why do they not introduce intelligent legislation? Watch the movie "Amazing Grace". Intoduce good legislation again and again and again until it is passed. Don't sit back and complain about the legislation being introduced by King Joe and his knights. One more remark. Where are the few Republican legislators we have? Why do they not introduce intelligent legislation? Watch the movie “Amazing Grace”. Intoduce good legislation again and again and again until it is passed. Don’t sit back and complain about the legislation being introduced by King Joe and his knights.

]]> By: Frank http://www.changewv.com/2008/the-dumbest-idea-of-the-year-a-richrod-buyout-clause-for-each-promise-scholar/comment-page-1#comment-16176 Frank Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:46:43 +0000 http://www.changewv.com/2008/the-dumbest-idea-of-the-year-a-richrod-buyout-clause-for-each-promise-scholar#comment-16176 My first remark was that we need tax reform. I truly believe that. #19 and others are concerned about taxpayers paying for Promise Scholarships. If the gambling profits were used to fund the Promise Scholarships as we were told they would, no taxes would have to be used. The controlling Democrat politicians are using gambling profits to fund anything and everything they want, thus shorting the scholarships. My first remark was that we need tax reform. I truly believe that. #19 and others are concerned about taxpayers paying for Promise Scholarships. If the gambling profits were used to fund the Promise Scholarships as we were told they would, no taxes would have to be used. The controlling Democrat politicians are using gambling profits to fund anything and everything they want, thus shorting the scholarships.

]]> By: Thomp http://www.changewv.com/2008/the-dumbest-idea-of-the-year-a-richrod-buyout-clause-for-each-promise-scholar/comment-page-1#comment-16169 Thomp Fri, 11 Jan 2008 01:03:01 +0000 http://www.changewv.com/2008/the-dumbest-idea-of-the-year-a-richrod-buyout-clause-for-each-promise-scholar#comment-16169 The state educational system is broken...teachers should be held accountable...good teachers should get raises, those with more advanced teaching skills (eg science and math) should be paid more...and those who are duds shouldnt get anything. Thanks to the teacher unions. The bullhorn photos in the gazz and dailymail says it all. It's shameless. The state educational system is broken…teachers should be held accountable…good teachers should get raises, those with more advanced teaching skills (eg science and math) should be paid more…and those who are duds shouldnt get anything. Thanks to the teacher unions. The bullhorn photos in the gazz and dailymail says it all. It’s shameless.

]]> By: Paul K http://www.changewv.com/2008/the-dumbest-idea-of-the-year-a-richrod-buyout-clause-for-each-promise-scholar/comment-page-1#comment-16168 Paul K Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:47:16 +0000 http://www.changewv.com/2008/the-dumbest-idea-of-the-year-a-richrod-buyout-clause-for-each-promise-scholar#comment-16168 This comment is in response to the one by RC above. RC, you hit the nail right on the head. Young people are not leaving West Vigrinia just for better jobs. They are leaving for a better quality of life. My 25 year old son recently quit a good paying job in Charleston to move to Raleigh to take a job with slightly LOWER pay. Why? Because it is a helluva lot more fun to be 25 in Raleigh than it is in Charleston. He said to me "Dad, I want to associate with people who think a good day off is more than a 12-pack of Bud and NASCAR race on tv." More power to him. I don't regret his decision, in fact, I envy him and wish I had had the guts to do the same thing 30 years ago. I wasted my youth in the backwater of Charleston (at pretty good, not great, but pretty good pay) and I don't want to see him do the same. I'll be honest, I hope he NEVER moves back here. This state is no place for an intelligent youth with ambition. And it would be selfish of me and his mother to insist that he stay here to hold our hands as we get older. My advice to any young person who has chance to move into a new and exciting location, and make an interesting life for themsleves is: "Go forth and do good!" This comment is in response to the one by RC above.

RC, you hit the nail right on the head. Young people are not leaving West Vigrinia just for better jobs. They are leaving for a better quality of life.

My 25 year old son recently quit a good paying job in Charleston to move to Raleigh to take a job with slightly LOWER pay. Why? Because it is a helluva lot more fun to be 25 in Raleigh than it is in Charleston. He said to me “Dad, I want to associate with people who think a good day off is more than a 12-pack of Bud and NASCAR race on tv.”

More power to him. I don’t regret his decision, in fact, I envy him and wish I had had the guts to do the same thing 30 years ago. I wasted my youth in the backwater of Charleston (at pretty good, not great, but pretty good pay) and I don’t want to see him do the same.

I’ll be honest, I hope he NEVER moves back here. This state is no place for an intelligent youth with ambition. And it would be selfish of me and his mother to insist that he stay here to hold our hands as we get older.

My advice to any young person who has chance to move into a new and exciting location, and make an interesting life for themsleves is: “Go forth and do good!”

]]> By: Senator Vic Sprouse http://www.changewv.com/2008/the-dumbest-idea-of-the-year-a-richrod-buyout-clause-for-each-promise-scholar/comment-page-1#comment-16163 Senator Vic Sprouse Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:23:30 +0000 http://www.changewv.com/2008/the-dumbest-idea-of-the-year-a-richrod-buyout-clause-for-each-promise-scholar#comment-16163 I got a kick out of your post,after listening to the governor's speech i think the legislature should take all the profit from tammarack and use it to widen all the bridges and tunnels leading into the state. After manchins speech about getting all the west virginians to move back into the state im sure they are piling up waiting on the border trying to get in. Did you notice how he used the (high tech) bit like underwood trying to get people worked up? All bs aside,another year no solutions. My solution is stop penalizing people for having a business in the first place. Every year we watch business's close down for inventory,there should be no tax on inventory. Small merchants wind up buying the same merchandise twice,the first when they purchase it from a wholesaler,secondly from the government if it doesnt sell. You have the inventory tax,and then you must pay a employee to count what you have so you can pay the state for it. The B&o tax,the state outlawed it,but they let municipalities keep it. This penalizes small business. having money alloted to cities from state coffers would be better. Think about it its a double income tax. You pay the state income tax,then you pay a city income tax called a b&o tax. why has it not been ruled unconstitutional? Now we have user fees,actually another b&o tax. isnt it any wonder why nothing grows in west virginia? Since you have been in the senate can you remember anyone trying to untax the people of the state? I see no change here,its the same as it was when i was young,my father was young,and my grandfather. generation after generation of people in this state getting screwed. I got a kick out of your post,after listening to the governor’s speech i think the legislature should take all the profit from tammarack and use it to widen all the bridges and tunnels leading into the state. After manchins speech about getting all the west virginians to move back into the state im sure they are piling up waiting on the border trying to get in.

Did you notice how he used the (high tech) bit like underwood trying to get people worked up?

All bs aside,another year no solutions.

My solution is stop penalizing people for having a business in the first place.

Every year we watch business’s close down for inventory,there should be no tax on inventory. Small merchants wind up buying the same merchandise twice,the first when they purchase it from a wholesaler,secondly from the government if it doesnt sell.

You have the inventory tax,and then you must pay a employee to count what you have so you can pay the state for it.

The B&o tax,the state outlawed it,but they let municipalities keep it. This penalizes small business. having money alloted to cities from state coffers would be better. Think about it its a double income tax. You pay the state income tax,then you pay a city income tax called a b&o tax. why has it not been ruled unconstitutional?

Now we have user fees,actually another b&o tax. isnt it any wonder why nothing grows in west virginia?

Since you have been in the senate can you remember anyone trying to untax the people of the state?

I see no change here,its the same as it was when i was young,my father was young,and my grandfather. generation after generation of people in this state getting screwed.

]]> By: Senator Vic Sprouse http://www.changewv.com/2008/the-dumbest-idea-of-the-year-a-richrod-buyout-clause-for-each-promise-scholar/comment-page-1#comment-16161 Senator Vic Sprouse Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:12:50 +0000 http://www.changewv.com/2008/the-dumbest-idea-of-the-year-a-richrod-buyout-clause-for-each-promise-scholar#comment-16161 I was thinking the same thing last night when he mentioned the Promise change. The problem is West Virginia doesn't have thousands of vacant jobs annually for college grads. They would have to flip burgers for four years and then move out to avoid the Rich-Rod Promise buyout. Our top executive is supposed to see the big picture. Too bad. I was thinking the same thing last night when he mentioned the Promise change. The problem is West Virginia doesn’t have thousands of vacant jobs annually for college grads. They would have to flip burgers for four years and then move out to avoid the Rich-Rod Promise buyout.

Our top executive is supposed to see the big picture. Too bad.

]]> By: Senator Vic Sprouse http://www.changewv.com/2008/the-dumbest-idea-of-the-year-a-richrod-buyout-clause-for-each-promise-scholar/comment-page-1#comment-16160 Senator Vic Sprouse Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:11:29 +0000 http://www.changewv.com/2008/the-dumbest-idea-of-the-year-a-richrod-buyout-clause-for-each-promise-scholar#comment-16160 I must agree..........if they don't stay in WV, then students should have to pay back for their scholarship...........I'm not worried about the parents.........how about someone caring about the taxpayers. I must agree……….if they don’t stay in WV, then students should have to pay back for their scholarship………..I’m not worried about the parents………how about someone caring about the taxpayers.

]]> By: Senator Vic Sprouse http://www.changewv.com/2008/the-dumbest-idea-of-the-year-a-richrod-buyout-clause-for-each-promise-scholar/comment-page-1#comment-16158 Senator Vic Sprouse Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:08:33 +0000 http://www.changewv.com/2008/the-dumbest-idea-of-the-year-a-richrod-buyout-clause-for-each-promise-scholar#comment-16158 Vic - you made me laugh out loud with that last comment... yes, I'm sure Kabler, Messina, Searls, et. al. love having their "journalistic equal" Cindy Frich at their side. I wish I could see a line up around the Senate Prez with Messina, Kabler, and Frich all pumping the President with questions. Or Cindy standing up in a Gov's press conference asking questions. Vic - you made me laugh out loud with that last comment… yes, I’m sure Kabler, Messina, Searls, et. al. love having their “journalistic equal” Cindy Frich at their side.

I wish I could see a line up around the Senate Prez with Messina, Kabler, and Frich all pumping the President with questions. Or Cindy standing up in a Gov’s press conference asking questions.

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