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	<title>Comments on: WVU and Heather Bresch: The guillotine has been rolled into the Mountainlair</title>
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	<description>Commentary by Vic Sprouse</description>
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		<title>By: Ed Taft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Taft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nearly 50 years ago, Eisenhower warned of the "military / industrial complex" that threatened good government (and balancing the budget!). For 15 years or so, thoughtful academics have been warning of the political / business complex" that threatens the integrity and the mission of public universities.

The sad story of corruption and cronyism at WVU is not limited to the flag ship institution: it could have happened at Marshall or in many other states which used to have realtively free and independent decision-making based on academic values. That's out the window in many states, not just WV, because business has decided to take over public education and remold it as if it were a profit-making business micromanaged by a partnership between business interests and state political interests. At Marshall, for example, the BOG is dedicated not to improving education but to revitalizing Huntington -- that's its prime goal, and it works hand and glove with the state legislature and the governor to try and make it happen (It won't.)
The clear result is that the university is under the thumb of business interests and public officials, and that leads to messes like the Bresch affair.

In one way, however, the problem is worse in WV because, unlike many other states, WV has no tradition of free and independent universities. Before business began running the universities, they were run as little fiefdoms of the rich and powerful. In other words, it was much the same as now -- just with a different kind of ideology
in the driver's seat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nearly 50 years ago, Eisenhower warned of the &#8220;military / industrial complex&#8221; that threatened good government (and balancing the budget!). For 15 years or so, thoughtful academics have been warning of the political / business complex&#8221; that threatens the integrity and the mission of public universities.</p>
<p>The sad story of corruption and cronyism at WVU is not limited to the flag ship institution: it could have happened at Marshall or in many other states which used to have realtively free and independent decision-making based on academic values. That&#8217;s out the window in many states, not just WV, because business has decided to take over public education and remold it as if it were a profit-making business micromanaged by a partnership between business interests and state political interests. At Marshall, for example, the BOG is dedicated not to improving education but to revitalizing Huntington &#8212; that&#8217;s its prime goal, and it works hand and glove with the state legislature and the governor to try and make it happen (It won&#8217;t.)<br />
The clear result is that the university is under the thumb of business interests and public officials, and that leads to messes like the Bresch affair.</p>
<p>In one way, however, the problem is worse in WV because, unlike many other states, WV has no tradition of free and independent universities. Before business began running the universities, they were run as little fiefdoms of the rich and powerful. In other words, it was much the same as now &#8212; just with a different kind of ideology<br />
in the driver&#8217;s seat.</p>
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		<title>By: grannynance</title>
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		<dc:creator>grannynance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watching Fox News tonight and the news ticker is carrying all the details about the "flawed judgement" that awarded the eMBA degree (that was not earned) to the daughter of our governor.  This smelly mess at WVU has now made it nationwide.  Fox News has run it over and over.

"Flawed judgment", phooey, this was cheating and fraud.  Please tell me again where the buck stops in this scandal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching Fox News tonight and the news ticker is carrying all the details about the &#8220;flawed judgement&#8221; that awarded the eMBA degree (that was not earned) to the daughter of our governor.  This smelly mess at WVU has now made it nationwide.  Fox News has run it over and over.</p>
<p>&#8220;Flawed judgment&#8221;, phooey, this was cheating and fraud.  Please tell me again where the buck stops in this scandal.</p>
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		<title>By: Senator Vic Sprouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Senator Vic Sprouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vic,

I noticed you penned an article re Bresch almost immediately.  Good article and I appreciate reading the responses as well.  Garrison needs to resign.  But...on another note - I'm still waiting for you to pen an article re Fred Armstong's firing.  Is your delay due to the fact he may be a democrat and was employed at-will?  The bottom line is "right is right" and "wrong is wrong."  Mr.
Armstrong's firing was wrong.  He was the most dedicated and hard-working State Archivist the Division of Culture &amp; History ever had.  Fred received the Virgil A. Lewis Award for outstanding contribution to the preservation and writing of history.  It is only presented when someone is found worthy of the award.

Respectfully,
And somewhat disappointed,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vic,</p>
<p>I noticed you penned an article re Bresch almost immediately.  Good article and I appreciate reading the responses as well.  Garrison needs to resign.  But&#8230;on another note - I&#8217;m still waiting for you to pen an article re Fred Armstong&#8217;s firing.  Is your delay due to the fact he may be a democrat and was employed at-will?  The bottom line is &#8220;right is right&#8221; and &#8220;wrong is wrong.&#8221;  Mr.<br />
Armstrong&#8217;s firing was wrong.  He was the most dedicated and hard-working State Archivist the Division of Culture &#038; History ever had.  Fred received the Virgil A. Lewis Award for outstanding contribution to the preservation and writing of history.  It is only presented when someone is found worthy of the award.</p>
<p>Respectfully,<br />
And somewhat disappointed,</p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't think that Garrison was innocent even in the whole Rich Rodriquez saga either.  He made promises he couldn't or didn't keep and because of it we lost one of the best college coaches in the country.  The good old boy system is at it again.  A skunk is a skunk is a skunk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t think that Garrison was innocent even in the whole Rich Rodriquez saga either.  He made promises he couldn&#8217;t or didn&#8217;t keep and because of it we lost one of the best college coaches in the country.  The good old boy system is at it again.  A skunk is a skunk is a skunk.</p>
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		<title>By: L</title>
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		<dc:creator>L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garrison says he takes full responsibility - except not really.  Resignation is the only acceptable act on his part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garrison says he takes full responsibility - except not really.  Resignation is the only acceptable act on his part.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Elder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Elder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PERCEPTION IS REALITY......NOTHING BUT A FULL HOUSE CLEANING WILL TRULY RESOLVE THE DAMAGE IMPOSED BY GARRISON AND STAFF.  TIMING IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT, DELAYING ACTION CREATES MORE ILL WILL AND FEEDS THE NEGATIVE PUBLIC PERCEPTION OF WVU.  "EARNING" A BS AND MBA DEGREES FROM B&amp;E MAKES THIS VERY PERSONAL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PERCEPTION IS REALITY&#8230;&#8230;NOTHING BUT A FULL HOUSE CLEANING WILL TRULY RESOLVE THE DAMAGE IMPOSED BY GARRISON AND STAFF.  TIMING IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT, DELAYING ACTION CREATES MORE ILL WILL AND FEEDS THE NEGATIVE PUBLIC PERCEPTION OF WVU.  &#8220;EARNING&#8221; A BS AND MBA DEGREES FROM B&amp;E MAKES THIS VERY PERSONAL.</p>
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		<title>By: pendragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>pendragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vic is right, this thing will not go away, if not put to bed.  and, Tom Miller is correct - if not put to bed, it does indeed have much broader implications!  

my hope is that it is NOT put to bed, NOT swept under the rug - let the truth be known, no matter how painful it may be - WV needs the cleansing...  WV would be better off, perhaps even, "changed"

Pandora's box may be open.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vic is right, this thing will not go away, if not put to bed.  and, Tom Miller is correct - if not put to bed, it does indeed have much broader implications!  </p>
<p>my hope is that it is NOT put to bed, NOT swept under the rug - let the truth be known, no matter how painful it may be - WV needs the cleansing&#8230;  WV would be better off, perhaps even, &#8220;changed&#8221;</p>
<p>Pandora&#8217;s box may be open.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Smoot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Smoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This resembles Watergate in that the original incident (Bresch had not earned her degree, the break in) was much, much less serious than the cover up.  Suppose she said last fall that she thought she had the degree, but would be happy to take coursework to finish the requirements?  No story here.  When public officials lie about relatively minor incidents, they create horrific damage to themselves and anyone and anything they are in contact with.

The state university was one of the few institutions related to state government that the people believed was free of corruption.  We have all been let down, whoever is ultimately to blame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This resembles Watergate in that the original incident (Bresch had not earned her degree, the break in) was much, much less serious than the cover up.  Suppose she said last fall that she thought she had the degree, but would be happy to take coursework to finish the requirements?  No story here.  When public officials lie about relatively minor incidents, they create horrific damage to themselves and anyone and anything they are in contact with.</p>
<p>The state university was one of the few institutions related to state government that the people believed was free of corruption.  We have all been let down, whoever is ultimately to blame.</p>
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		<title>By: Sadie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sadie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If her degree was earned the records of her time at WVU would have been made public when this first came up.  ----just like when Manchin's friends wedding party had some people ticketed by the state police and sheriffs deptuies---When King Manchin wants something he gets it.  He is a Bill Clinton wanta be</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If her degree was earned the records of her time at WVU would have been made public when this first came up.  &#8212;-just like when Manchin&#8217;s friends wedding party had some people ticketed by the state police and sheriffs deptuies&#8212;When King Manchin wants something he gets it.  He is a Bill Clinton wanta be</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This story will have more debris...It started from the Pittsburgh Post Gazette - a paper known for its follow-up and one that has nothing to lose by totally alienating everyone up and down the I-79 corridor from Morgantown to Charleston. They will get Garrison's phone records and they will keep at this like a bunch of rabid sharks at a bloody tuna convention...Manchin needs to come clean now - open it all up - before he ends up in a fiasco that carries over into the fall elections...As for WVU, if this scandal expands and other "fabricated" degrees arise, then national accredidations are on the line and lots of other nasty things start popping up...This is a lose/lose for West Virginia any way that it plays out...both politically and academically..."No scandal left behind..."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story will have more debris&#8230;It started from the Pittsburgh Post Gazette - a paper known for its follow-up and one that has nothing to lose by totally alienating everyone up and down the I-79 corridor from Morgantown to Charleston. They will get Garrison&#8217;s phone records and they will keep at this like a bunch of rabid sharks at a bloody tuna convention&#8230;Manchin needs to come clean now - open it all up - before he ends up in a fiasco that carries over into the fall elections&#8230;As for WVU, if this scandal expands and other &#8220;fabricated&#8221; degrees arise, then national accredidations are on the line and lots of other nasty things start popping up&#8230;This is a lose/lose for West Virginia any way that it plays out&#8230;both politically and academically&#8230;&#8221;No scandal left behind&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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